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I am emailing a Word document that has brainstorming information that I researched. I am not an Aaleem as such so I cannot properly translate or interpret the Quran as it should be.
Please read the information as I need someone to check it and correct me please wherever I might have went over board, so to speak. Please advise or enlighten me about the information or any further research that I should undertake etc.
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I have been trying to ‘Describe’ the event in the Quran where Zul-Qarnain build the barrier that prevents Juj and Majuj from emerging until ALLAH allows them to. I realize that we may never uncover their exact location but I feel that we can prove that they exist and that the event had taken place.
Please advise me on this research that I have done and the Theory that I propose about continental drift and the Earth and how this would aid in hiding these tribes from mankind until they are freed by ALLAH.
I am not qualified to research but I have always wanted to research and learn as much as I can before I die and I want to help with educating mankind (Especially myself and my family) about Islam, the Universe.
I believe that Harun Yahya’s work is important… it is like having experiencing the True Discovery Channel in my opinion. I wish that some day we can establish a Satellite Television channel similar to Discovery Channel but from the views that are presented on Harun Yahya web site. – Insha-Allah and Aameen.
Please don’t be angered with me if what I present in the text of my document is totally irrelevant or if emailing you about this was off the topic or purpose this email address was setup.
Jazakallah for your time and efforts in assisting me with this. I really appreciate and respect what you all do. I hope that one day we could meet and that I could be a part of your team of researchers. Insha-Allah!
Assalaamu-Alaikum
Bismillah-Hirrahman-Nirraheem
The following ideas or assumptions are based on the idea that Zul-Qarnain lived at a time that was during the very earliest stages of our Earth’s existence when ALLAH had made the Earth inhabitable by Humans and perhaps before the well known Prophets but after Adam (AS).
I have tried to find information about the Major sign of the Sun rising from the West (Subhanallah!) and there is some ideas about the event concerning Zul-Qarnain.
As you may read, my information might seem ‘mixed up’ and drifts into other aspects etc. but this is where I request guidance from more educated people.
I was reading an article about Continental Drift a few weeks ago on the Internet and there were certain phenomena associated with this ‘crustal’ activity that caught my attention as I also recalled for some reason, the story of Juj and Majuj that we were taught at Madressah (Islamic School we attended in SA).
This lead me to think of the changes our Earth had undergone over all the years of its existence and I wondered if we had any idea as to WHEN in time this event occurred. So I thought I would look it up in the Quran. I found the relevant Ayah that speaks of this event and I have to admit that I knew I should ask the people in my own community but then decided to go ahead and try to see what I can piece together on my own and admit that I also didn’t want to be distracted by every ones different opinions and views and wanted to approach the subject as an individual seeking knowledge from ALLAH. Do not mistake me because it did occur to me to email information I piece together to people like yourselves hence this email. The reason I decided this is because among my community there are many disputes about many issues concerning Islam and I did not want to start another. – I hope that ALLAH will forgive me wherever I go wrong. Insha-Allah and Aameen.
Below is the brainstorming information I put down whenever I found information and again I plead with you to bare with me as you may see that some information strays off the topic or might be totally irrelevant.
All my research was gathered from my own analysis of the links at the bottom of this email
The Sun Rising from the West:
I had researched a few sites that spoke about the Earth and Polar Shifts that happen over a certain period of years and the late Professor Charles Hapgood had uncovered some information that suggests the Earths Poles were changing all the time and will continue to change. He was searching for Atlantis, but I felt that his research also suggested that the Earths Eastern and Western hemispheres might have been in different regions in terms of how the Earth was spinning relative to its Polar positions at the time. In other words if the North Pole was situated South and vice versa in the past, would the Earth have been spinning in a way that made the Sun appear from Earth to rise from the West?
According to Professor Hapgood, the Earth’s poles shifted many times before and I wondered if it was possible that Zul-Qarnain could have lived on an Earth that had different Polar positions.
The question is when would the Earth have been in a stable enough position (in terms of its axis and the location of our North and South Poles) to support Human Life?
If Humans were put on Earth while the Earth was shifting its Poles etc. and forming itself to what we know of today then my theory is worth researching. If mankind only inhabited the Earth after the poles had stabilized at its current position then the region of the setting sun is West, and the rising sun is East. (Chapter 18 Al-Kahf (The Cave): Verses 83-99) If there was a time that the sun rose from the West in the past, but you see this depends on how many times the Earths Poles shifted 180 degrees around.
If the Earth was spinning in the direction it spins today since its creation then The region of the Rising and Setting suns will be the regions as they are today (East and West).
It’s not simple to get all the facts straight especially if I don’t have an expert or something to verify my research.
Elements of the WallThis site on the Tribes of Juj and Majuj has a lot of Hadith narrated on this subject:http://www.islam.tc/prophecies/yajooj.html
Once again we can see from the above site, ALLAH is in control of these people until He will free them. Therefore the obvious ways for them to break through the wall do no occur to them.
What we know about these tribes is absolutely unknown… from what the Quran tells us about the incident concerning them and Zul-Qarnain I don’t think that Zul-Qarnain had met them personally.
I wonder how long it took them to erect such a Wall and then to pour Molten Lead over it etc. ?
From what I understand, they first build a Wall of Iron to seal the passage between the Mountain pass and then heated the metal could combine it with Molten Lead. – This would definitely be a tough wall.
Now Imagine that this Huge Metallic/Lead wall was built so many ages ago… What would something like this resemble today if we came across it?
Some think that the Wall is in a land of Ice hidden from mankind (Or somewhere so deep into the Icy regions that no man can go there) this would imply any of the Poles.
If the poles shifted, the Ice covering the regions would also melt away and this could expose the Wall, and maybe the wall will be so old through the centuries that it could be leveled to Dust. – Maybe I am being too literal here, but how long will it take a mass of Iron and Lead to age into dust?
Most ancient ruins become part of the background that they were laid to rest on, so to speak. So this Wall and the Mountain pass it resides between could look like one huge ‘object’ or mountain. – It would have been a remarkable sight to behold at the time this wall was build.
I searched the Net for information on a procedure or method and benefits of Interacting Iron with Molten Lead and came across many sites on the subject…
I thought about why Zul-Qarnain build a Wall of Iron blocks and then poured Molten Lead over it and discovered that this method of pouring molten lead over Iron serves as a way to ensure that the Wall was hardened, strengthened and finally sealed completely.
Today we have a similar (If not the same) method called Austempering which is an isothermal heat treatment (Constant temperature of Heat) that, when applied to ferrous (Metallic) materials, produces a structure that is stronger and tougher than comparable structures produced with conventional heat treatments.
Zul-Qarnain asked these people to blow on the Iron with their Bellows in the following verse:
96. "Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."
The dictionary defines ‘BELLOWS’ as follows:
An apparatus for producing a strong current of air, as for sounding a pipe organ or increasing the draft to a fire, consisting of a flexible, valved air chamber that is contracted and expanded by pumping to force the air through a nozzle.
Something, such as the pleated windbag of an accordion that resembles this apparatus.
OR
The lungs
During my research on the method used for constructing and securing the Wall and while I read an article on the Austempering method for improving the strength of a structure that undergoes the Austempering process I read the following:”The parts (Metallic Parts) are heated to red heat in a controlled atmosphere (so they don't scale) but then are quenched in a bath of molten salt at 450°F (232c) to 750°F (399c). The quench temperature is above the Martensite starting temperature. Therefore, a different structure (not Martensite) results. In Austempered Ductile Iron and Austempered Gray Iron the structure is Ausferrite, and in steel, it is Bainite” - REF: http://www.appliedprocess.com/austempering/default.htm
The above extract can be found on the reference link provided below…
In the extract above we read that the metallic parts of the structure is heated to RED HEAT, and if we read the above stated Quranic verse regarding the process used to construct the Wall we also read in the Quranic Verse that these people blew on the Iron with their bellows until it was RED as fire BEFORE Zul-Qarnain poured the Molten Lead over the Wall.
96. "Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."
If I am not mistaken then it sounds a lot like the method implemented to construct the Wall that barricades Juj and Majuj was very close if not the exact same method used in Austempering.
Reference links:
http://www.viewzone.com/changingpoles.html
http://www.viewzone.com/changingpoles22.html
http://www.mondovista.com/Jjesus.html
http://www.mondovista.com/moslemprophecy.html
http://www.earth-history.com/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/03/010306072809.htm
http://www.ancientearth.org/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6479289.stm
http://www.creation-answers.com/slowing.htm
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/ast99/ast99318.htm
http://www.creation-answers.com/time.htm
http://www.dartabligh.org/books/ebooks/basicbeliefs/page82.asp (Mahdi online book)
http://www.creation-answers.com/forty.htm
http://www.islam.tc/prophecies/yajooj.html (Yajooj and Majooj)THE ELEMENTS OF THE WALL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron
http://w3.gsa.gov/web/p/hptp.nsf/a533f1f859737bc9852565cc0058d0b6/8e5a0ae5ad264e31852565c50054b4eb?OpenDocument
http://www.appliedprocess.com/austempering/default.htm (Austempering)
Structure of the Earth
http://scign.jpl.nasa.gov/learn/plate1.htm
Jazkallah for your time and efforts again…
Bismillah:
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Tuesday, July 10, 2007
AMAZING METHOD OF HARDENING IRON
I always wondered how God would hide a people from the World for so many years undetected. Well, if you ask you will get your answer!
I thought about the different technologies that we have at our disposal and how we see satellites orbiting the Earth from space to take snap shots of places that we cannot reach by foot etc. and wondered how people would MISS such a large civilization for so many years.
The clue revealed in the Quran about the ‘BARRIER’ that prevents them from emerging is in Verses 95 & 96 of the above mentioned chapter in the Holy Quran:
95. He (Zul-Qarnain) said: "(The power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than tribute): Help me therefore with strength (and labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them:
96. "Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."
Zul-Qarnain asked the people of that area to help him build a ‘BARRIER’ between them and Juj and Majuj. They build this barrier using IRON and MOLTEN LEAD.
Now one would think that if we can detect Minerals on other planets especially on Earth then wouldn’t we be able to detect a region of land that has a combination of Iron and Lead?
If you had to think about the age of the Earth, from the time it cooled down and became Land and Water etc. How many times would the Earth have shifted its Poles and how close were the Continents to each other?
The above questions are what motivated me to looking closer into this subject. Bare in mind that at this point all of this is merely an opinion. I began thinking about how many years ago did all this actually take place and to me it sounds a lot like it might have occurred before any of the other Prophets that were sent. It just seemed to me that this is a story that is extremely ancient history.
I wondered why the Revelation did NOT state WEST or EAST, but rather refers to these regions or directions that Zul-Qarnain traveled as the direction of the ‘Rising Sun’ and the ‘Setting Sun’.
Then I found news on the Net about how our Poles (North and South) always change location over a certain number of Thousands of years. I knew about continental drift but I never thought that the Poles shift as well… So this information is based on the assumption that the Earth’s Poles and continents were quite different than it is today.
A shift in the Poles will trigger the Earth to spin in the opposite direction thereby making the Sun appear the Rise from the West. This is a major sign of the Last Day. There will be NO forgiveness for people that do not accept that ALLAH is the only ONE God and that He has no partners, and that Nabi Muhammad (SAW) is His Last and Final Messenger. But that does make sense. At that point in time, mankind cannot all of a sudden accept GOD as HE Truly is after so many years and sacrifices that The Holy Prophets (Peace and Blessings be Upon them ALL) made for us, the numerous prophecies that came before this event (Western Sun Rise) and all that ALLAH made clear for anybody who had the faculty of thought and reason.
Piecing up all the clues and all the evidence, will not enable one to calculate the Final Hour as Knowledge of that moment is with ALLAH alone. However, I feel that we can look and see how elements or forces in the universe etc. are building up towards this event.
Elements of the WallThis site on the Tribes of Juj and Majuj has a lot of Hadith narrated on this subject:http://www.islam.tc/prophecies/yajooj.html
Once again we can see from the above site, ALLAH is in control of these people until He will free them. Therefore the obvious ways for them to break through the wall do no occur to them until ALLAH decides or lets it enter their minds.
What we know about these tribes is mostly unknown… from what the Quran tells us about the incident concerning them and Zul-Qarnain I don’t think that Zul-Qarnain had met them (Juj and Majuj) personally.
I also wonder how long it took them to erect such a Wall and then to pour Molten Lead over it etc.?
From what I understand, they first build a Wall of Iron to seal the passage between the steep Mountain pass and then heated the metal to combine it with Molten Lead. – This would definitely be a tough wall.
Now Imagine that this Huge Metallic/Lead wall was built so many ages ago… What would something like this resemble today if we came across it?
Some think that the Wall is in a land of Ice hidden from mankind (Or somewhere so deep into the Icy regions that no man can go there) this would imply any of the Poles.
If the poles shifted, the Ice covering the regions would also melt away and this could expose the Wall, and maybe the wall will be so old through the centuries that it could be leveled to Dust. – Maybe I am being too literal here, but how long will it take a mass of Iron and Lead to age into dust?
Most ancient ruins become part of the background that they were laid to rest on, so to speak. So this Wall and the Mountain pass it resides between could look like one huge ‘object’ or mountain. – It would have been a remarkable sight to behold at the actual time this wall was build.
So what exactly are we ‘looking’ at in our minds in terms of how this wall was constructed?
I searched the Net for information on a procedure or method and benefits of Interacting Iron with Molten Lead and came across many sites on the subject…
I thought about why Zul-Qarnain build a Wall of Iron blocks and then poured Molten Lead over it and discovered that this method of pouring molten lead over Iron serves as a way to ensure that the Wall was hardened, strengthened and finally sealed completely.
Today we have a similar (If not the same) method called Austempering which is an isothermal heat treatment (Constant temperature of Heat) that, when applied to ferrous (Metallic) materials, produces a structure that is stronger and tougher than comparable structures produced with conventional heat treatments.
Zul-Qarnain asked these people to blow on the Iron with their Bellows in the following verse:
96. "Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."
A bellow is an apparatus for producing a strong current of air, as for sounding a pipe organ or increasing the draft to a fire, consisting of a flexible, valved air chamber that is contracted and expanded by pumping to force the air through a nozzle. Something, such as the pleated windbag of an accordion that resembles this apparatus. It could also mean The lungs.
During my research on the method used for constructing and securing the Wall and while I read an article on the Austempering method for improving the strength of a structure that undergoes the Austempering process I read the following:”The parts (Metallic Parts) are heated to red heat in a controlled atmosphere (so they don't scale) but then are quenched in a bath of molten salt at 450°F (232c) to 750°F (399c). The quench temperature is above the Martensite starting temperature. Therefore, a different structure (not Martensite) results. In Austempered Ductile Iron and Austempered Gray Iron the structure is Ausferrite, and in steel, it is Bainite” - REF: http://www.appliedprocess.com/austempering/default.htm
In the extract above we read that the metallic parts of the structure is heated to RED HEAT, and if we read the above stated Quranic verse regarding the process used to construct the Wall we also read in the Quranic Verse that these people blew on the Iron with their bellows until it was RED as fire BEFORE Zul-Qarnain poured the Molten Lead over the Wall.
96. "Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."
If I am not mistaken then it sounds a lot like the method implemented to construct the Wall that barricades Juj and Majuj was very close if not the exact same method used in Austempering.
I thought about the different technologies that we have at our disposal and how we see satellites orbiting the Earth from space to take snap shots of places that we cannot reach by foot etc. and wondered how people would MISS such a large civilization for so many years.
The clue revealed in the Quran about the ‘BARRIER’ that prevents them from emerging is in Verses 95 & 96 of the above mentioned chapter in the Holy Quran:
95. He (Zul-Qarnain) said: "(The power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than tribute): Help me therefore with strength (and labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them:
96. "Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."
Zul-Qarnain asked the people of that area to help him build a ‘BARRIER’ between them and Juj and Majuj. They build this barrier using IRON and MOLTEN LEAD.
Now one would think that if we can detect Minerals on other planets especially on Earth then wouldn’t we be able to detect a region of land that has a combination of Iron and Lead?
If you had to think about the age of the Earth, from the time it cooled down and became Land and Water etc. How many times would the Earth have shifted its Poles and how close were the Continents to each other?
The above questions are what motivated me to looking closer into this subject. Bare in mind that at this point all of this is merely an opinion. I began thinking about how many years ago did all this actually take place and to me it sounds a lot like it might have occurred before any of the other Prophets that were sent. It just seemed to me that this is a story that is extremely ancient history.
I wondered why the Revelation did NOT state WEST or EAST, but rather refers to these regions or directions that Zul-Qarnain traveled as the direction of the ‘Rising Sun’ and the ‘Setting Sun’.
Then I found news on the Net about how our Poles (North and South) always change location over a certain number of Thousands of years. I knew about continental drift but I never thought that the Poles shift as well… So this information is based on the assumption that the Earth’s Poles and continents were quite different than it is today.
A shift in the Poles will trigger the Earth to spin in the opposite direction thereby making the Sun appear the Rise from the West. This is a major sign of the Last Day. There will be NO forgiveness for people that do not accept that ALLAH is the only ONE God and that He has no partners, and that Nabi Muhammad (SAW) is His Last and Final Messenger. But that does make sense. At that point in time, mankind cannot all of a sudden accept GOD as HE Truly is after so many years and sacrifices that The Holy Prophets (Peace and Blessings be Upon them ALL) made for us, the numerous prophecies that came before this event (Western Sun Rise) and all that ALLAH made clear for anybody who had the faculty of thought and reason.
Piecing up all the clues and all the evidence, will not enable one to calculate the Final Hour as Knowledge of that moment is with ALLAH alone. However, I feel that we can look and see how elements or forces in the universe etc. are building up towards this event.
Elements of the WallThis site on the Tribes of Juj and Majuj has a lot of Hadith narrated on this subject:http://www.islam.tc/prophecies/yajooj.html
Once again we can see from the above site, ALLAH is in control of these people until He will free them. Therefore the obvious ways for them to break through the wall do no occur to them until ALLAH decides or lets it enter their minds.
What we know about these tribes is mostly unknown… from what the Quran tells us about the incident concerning them and Zul-Qarnain I don’t think that Zul-Qarnain had met them (Juj and Majuj) personally.
I also wonder how long it took them to erect such a Wall and then to pour Molten Lead over it etc.?
From what I understand, they first build a Wall of Iron to seal the passage between the steep Mountain pass and then heated the metal to combine it with Molten Lead. – This would definitely be a tough wall.
Now Imagine that this Huge Metallic/Lead wall was built so many ages ago… What would something like this resemble today if we came across it?
Some think that the Wall is in a land of Ice hidden from mankind (Or somewhere so deep into the Icy regions that no man can go there) this would imply any of the Poles.
If the poles shifted, the Ice covering the regions would also melt away and this could expose the Wall, and maybe the wall will be so old through the centuries that it could be leveled to Dust. – Maybe I am being too literal here, but how long will it take a mass of Iron and Lead to age into dust?
Most ancient ruins become part of the background that they were laid to rest on, so to speak. So this Wall and the Mountain pass it resides between could look like one huge ‘object’ or mountain. – It would have been a remarkable sight to behold at the actual time this wall was build.
So what exactly are we ‘looking’ at in our minds in terms of how this wall was constructed?
I searched the Net for information on a procedure or method and benefits of Interacting Iron with Molten Lead and came across many sites on the subject…
I thought about why Zul-Qarnain build a Wall of Iron blocks and then poured Molten Lead over it and discovered that this method of pouring molten lead over Iron serves as a way to ensure that the Wall was hardened, strengthened and finally sealed completely.
Today we have a similar (If not the same) method called Austempering which is an isothermal heat treatment (Constant temperature of Heat) that, when applied to ferrous (Metallic) materials, produces a structure that is stronger and tougher than comparable structures produced with conventional heat treatments.
Zul-Qarnain asked these people to blow on the Iron with their Bellows in the following verse:
96. "Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."
A bellow is an apparatus for producing a strong current of air, as for sounding a pipe organ or increasing the draft to a fire, consisting of a flexible, valved air chamber that is contracted and expanded by pumping to force the air through a nozzle. Something, such as the pleated windbag of an accordion that resembles this apparatus. It could also mean The lungs.
During my research on the method used for constructing and securing the Wall and while I read an article on the Austempering method for improving the strength of a structure that undergoes the Austempering process I read the following:”The parts (Metallic Parts) are heated to red heat in a controlled atmosphere (so they don't scale) but then are quenched in a bath of molten salt at 450°F (232c) to 750°F (399c). The quench temperature is above the Martensite starting temperature. Therefore, a different structure (not Martensite) results. In Austempered Ductile Iron and Austempered Gray Iron the structure is Ausferrite, and in steel, it is Bainite” - REF: http://www.appliedprocess.com/austempering/default.htm
In the extract above we read that the metallic parts of the structure is heated to RED HEAT, and if we read the above stated Quranic verse regarding the process used to construct the Wall we also read in the Quranic Verse that these people blew on the Iron with their bellows until it was RED as fire BEFORE Zul-Qarnain poured the Molten Lead over the Wall.
96. "Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."
If I am not mistaken then it sounds a lot like the method implemented to construct the Wall that barricades Juj and Majuj was very close if not the exact same method used in Austempering.
Iron Wall Built By Zul-Qurnain
I was looking at the way the Wall was build and thought about the method:
First they laid the blocks of IRON between the mountain pass… secondly they heated the steel until it was red to form so that Zul-Qarnain could pour Molten Lead over the wall… ever wondered why?
Well check this site and you will read about a process called Austempering that is the best way ever to strengthen Steel surfaces… it’s a whole process, many articles on the Web… but again if people had taken heed of this process that was used by Zul-Qarnain, they would have figured out this method long before it was apparently discovered in 1932! – The West has a way of just knocking inventions and making claims to discover stuff they weren’t the first to discover…
http://www.appliedprocess.com/austempering/default.htm
First they laid the blocks of IRON between the mountain pass… secondly they heated the steel until it was red to form so that Zul-Qarnain could pour Molten Lead over the wall… ever wondered why?
Well check this site and you will read about a process called Austempering that is the best way ever to strengthen Steel surfaces… it’s a whole process, many articles on the Web… but again if people had taken heed of this process that was used by Zul-Qarnain, they would have figured out this method long before it was apparently discovered in 1932! – The West has a way of just knocking inventions and making claims to discover stuff they weren’t the first to discover…
http://www.appliedprocess.com/austempering/default.htm
End Of World Research Continues
Now that I have your attention I want to explain where my personal interest began…
I always wondered how God would hide a people from the World for so many years undetected. Well, if you ask you will get your answer!
I thought about the different technologies that we have at our disposal and how we see satellites orbiting the Earth from space to take snap shots of places that we cannot reach by foot etc. and wondered how people would MISS such a large civilization for so many years.
The clue revealed in the Quran about the ‘BARRIER’ that prevents them from emerging is in Verses 95 & 96 of the above mentioned chapter in the Holy Quran:
95. He (Zul-Qarnain) said: "(The power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than tribute): Help me therefore with strength (and labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them:
96. "Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."
Zul-Qarnain asked the people of that area to help him build a ‘BARRIER’ between them and Juj and Majuj. They build this barrier using IRON and MOLTEN LEAD.
Now one would think that if we can detect Minerals on other planets especially on Earth then wouldn’t we be able to detect a region of land that has a combination of Iron and Lead?
If you had to think about the age of the Earth, from the time it cooled down and became Land and Water etc. How many times would the Earth have shifted its Poles and how close were the Continents to each other?
The above questions are what motivated me to looking closer into this subject. Bare in mind that at this point all of this is merely an opinion. I began thinking about how many years ago did all this actually take place and to me it sounds a lot like it might have occurred before any of the other Prophets that were sent. It just seemed to me that this is a story that is extremely ancient history.
I wondered why the Revelation did NOT state WEST or EAST, but rather refers to these regions or directions that Zul-Qarnain traveled as the direction of the ‘Rising Sun’ and the ‘Setting Sun’.
Then I found news on the Net about how our Poles (North and South) always change location over a certain number of Thousands of years. I knew about continental drift but I never thought that the Poles shift as well… So this information is based on the assumption that the Earth’s Poles and continents were quite different than it is today.
A shift in the Poles will trigger the Earth to spin in the opposite direction thereby making the Sun appear the Rise from the West. This is a major sign of the Last Day. There will be NO forgiveness for people that do not accept that ALLAH is the only ONE God and that He has no partners, and that Nabi Muhammad (SAW) is His Last and Final Messenger. But that does make sense. At that point in time, mankind cannot all of a sudden accept GOD as HE Truly is after so many years and sacrifices that The Holy Prophets (Peace and Blessings be Upon them ALL) made for us, the numerous prophecies that came before this event (Western Sun Rise) and all that ALLAH made clear for anybody who had the faculty of thought and reason.
Piecing up all the clues and all the evidence, will not enable one to calculate the Final Hour as Knowledge of that moment is with ALLAH alone. However, I feel that we can look and see how elements etc. in this Universe are building up towards this event.
Anyway… There are two things that these posts will be discussing:
1. The possible regions that Juj and Majuj
2. The build up towards the Sun Rising from the West.
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I always wondered how God would hide a people from the World for so many years undetected. Well, if you ask you will get your answer!
I thought about the different technologies that we have at our disposal and how we see satellites orbiting the Earth from space to take snap shots of places that we cannot reach by foot etc. and wondered how people would MISS such a large civilization for so many years.
The clue revealed in the Quran about the ‘BARRIER’ that prevents them from emerging is in Verses 95 & 96 of the above mentioned chapter in the Holy Quran:
95. He (Zul-Qarnain) said: "(The power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than tribute): Help me therefore with strength (and labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them:
96. "Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."
Zul-Qarnain asked the people of that area to help him build a ‘BARRIER’ between them and Juj and Majuj. They build this barrier using IRON and MOLTEN LEAD.
Now one would think that if we can detect Minerals on other planets especially on Earth then wouldn’t we be able to detect a region of land that has a combination of Iron and Lead?
If you had to think about the age of the Earth, from the time it cooled down and became Land and Water etc. How many times would the Earth have shifted its Poles and how close were the Continents to each other?
The above questions are what motivated me to looking closer into this subject. Bare in mind that at this point all of this is merely an opinion. I began thinking about how many years ago did all this actually take place and to me it sounds a lot like it might have occurred before any of the other Prophets that were sent. It just seemed to me that this is a story that is extremely ancient history.
I wondered why the Revelation did NOT state WEST or EAST, but rather refers to these regions or directions that Zul-Qarnain traveled as the direction of the ‘Rising Sun’ and the ‘Setting Sun’.
Then I found news on the Net about how our Poles (North and South) always change location over a certain number of Thousands of years. I knew about continental drift but I never thought that the Poles shift as well… So this information is based on the assumption that the Earth’s Poles and continents were quite different than it is today.
A shift in the Poles will trigger the Earth to spin in the opposite direction thereby making the Sun appear the Rise from the West. This is a major sign of the Last Day. There will be NO forgiveness for people that do not accept that ALLAH is the only ONE God and that He has no partners, and that Nabi Muhammad (SAW) is His Last and Final Messenger. But that does make sense. At that point in time, mankind cannot all of a sudden accept GOD as HE Truly is after so many years and sacrifices that The Holy Prophets (Peace and Blessings be Upon them ALL) made for us, the numerous prophecies that came before this event (Western Sun Rise) and all that ALLAH made clear for anybody who had the faculty of thought and reason.
Piecing up all the clues and all the evidence, will not enable one to calculate the Final Hour as Knowledge of that moment is with ALLAH alone. However, I feel that we can look and see how elements etc. in this Universe are building up towards this event.
Anyway… There are two things that these posts will be discussing:
1. The possible regions that Juj and Majuj
2. The build up towards the Sun Rising from the West.
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Friday, July 6, 2007
Evidence of The end of the Earth
Science Researchers have been researching and discovering more and more evidence and uncovering many artifacts that have left clues about the fate of past’s perished nations in order to work out what to expect today or in the future.
This blog is for everyone who is interested in Revelation and The Signs of the Last Day and how these signs have been unfolding and continues to even today.
I want you to ponder on all the FACTS that we present to you as the reader. We are all Men and Women of Understanding.
I would like to open this blog with a Prophecy from the Final Prophet (SAW) sent to us…
Huzafa narrates that Mohammed (PBUH) said:
"Qiyamah will not come till you see ten signs, which are: Smoke which spreads throughout the East and West for forty days; Dajjal; Da'aba, a four-legged beast of the length of 60 yards. He will have the stick of Musa [Moses] and ring of Sulaiman [Solomon]. In running he will have no equal. He will strike Mu'min with Musa's stick and will mark the word Mu'min on his face and similarly put the stamp of Kafr [Star of David] on the face of the Kafr; Rising of the sun from the West; Descent of Isa ibn Maryam [Jesus]; Juj and Majuj [Gog and Magog]; Sinking of the earth at three places, East, West, and Arabian Gulf; Fire which will emanate from one side of Aden and drive the people to Hasr.
The following links suggest that the Poles can shift UNEXPECTEDLY as well… continental drift aids the movement but professor Charles H. Hapgood is arguing that the poles shifted at some point extremely faster than its usual displacement, plus these sites show what I wanted to see. I wanted a picture of the different positions of the Poles and Hapgood worked it out. His mission was to find Atlantis but his research helps me as well….
I used to always ponder on the Sign that speaks about the Juj and Majuj. This two tribes that will emerge with one purpose to destroy all in their path.
Their story is revealed in the Quran in Chapter 18 Al-Kahf (The Cave): Verses 83-99.
83. They ask thee concerning Zul-qarnain. Say, "I will rehearse to you something of his story."
84. Verily We established his power on earth, and We gave him the ways and the means to all ends.
85. One (such) way he followed,
86. Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness."
87. He said: "Whoever doth wrong, him shall we punish; then shall he be sent back to his Lord; and He will punish him with a punishment unheard-of (before).
88. "But whoever believes, and works righteousness,- he shall have a goodly reward, and easy will be his task as We order it by our Command."
89. Then followed he (another) way,
90. Until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had provided no covering protection against the sun.
91. (He left them) as they were: We completely understood what was before him.
92. Then followed he (another) way,
93. Until, when he reached (a tract) between two mountains, he found, beneath them, a people who scarcely understood a word.
94. They said: "O Zul-qarnain! the Gog and Magog (People) do great mischief on earth: shall we then render thee tribute in order that thou mightest erect a barrier between us and them?
95. He said: "(The power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than tribute): Help me therefore with strength (and labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them:
96. "Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."
97. Thus were they made powerless to scale it or to dig through it.
98. He said: "This is a mercy from my Lord: But when the promise of my Lord comes to pass, He will make it into dust; and the promise of my Lord is true."
99. On that day We shall leave them to surge like waves on one another: the trumpet will be blown, and We shall collect them all together.
1. The above Verses tell us that Zul-Qarnain traveled to the land of the Setting sun in a region that had ‘Murky Water’.
2. Then he traveled in another direction towards the Rising Sun in a land that God provided ‘No Covering Protection’ from the Sun. At this region he found people there, but he simply left them to be and traveled toward a 3rd unknown direction.
However, the clue revealed in the Quran mentions a ‘tract between two mountains’.
The above verses are the only Words spoken by God to Prophet Muhammad (SAW) concerning Zul-Qarnain and the Tribes of Juj and Majuj. In verse 98, these people are prophesized to be set free by God when He alone decides to.
The release of Juj and Majuj is part of the Major signs of the Last Day. I believe that nobody will be able to find them until they are released, but I aim to prove that the EXISTANCE of these tribes are a reality and that if we search sincerely enough we can discover how the incident actually took place or where it MIGHT have taken place…but there are many places theorized by different researchers of the subject.
I welcome any further research and comments regarding this subject…
This is merely the beginning of my research. I have loads of info but need to compile them more clearly to encourage curiosity from you all.
Send your findings this way…
my research links
This blog is for everyone who is interested in Revelation and The Signs of the Last Day and how these signs have been unfolding and continues to even today.
I want you to ponder on all the FACTS that we present to you as the reader. We are all Men and Women of Understanding.
I would like to open this blog with a Prophecy from the Final Prophet (SAW) sent to us…
Huzafa narrates that Mohammed (PBUH) said:
"Qiyamah will not come till you see ten signs, which are: Smoke which spreads throughout the East and West for forty days; Dajjal; Da'aba, a four-legged beast of the length of 60 yards. He will have the stick of Musa [Moses] and ring of Sulaiman [Solomon]. In running he will have no equal. He will strike Mu'min with Musa's stick and will mark the word Mu'min on his face and similarly put the stamp of Kafr [Star of David] on the face of the Kafr; Rising of the sun from the West; Descent of Isa ibn Maryam [Jesus]; Juj and Majuj [Gog and Magog]; Sinking of the earth at three places, East, West, and Arabian Gulf; Fire which will emanate from one side of Aden and drive the people to Hasr.
The following links suggest that the Poles can shift UNEXPECTEDLY as well… continental drift aids the movement but professor Charles H. Hapgood is arguing that the poles shifted at some point extremely faster than its usual displacement, plus these sites show what I wanted to see. I wanted a picture of the different positions of the Poles and Hapgood worked it out. His mission was to find Atlantis but his research helps me as well….
I used to always ponder on the Sign that speaks about the Juj and Majuj. This two tribes that will emerge with one purpose to destroy all in their path.
Their story is revealed in the Quran in Chapter 18 Al-Kahf (The Cave): Verses 83-99.
83. They ask thee concerning Zul-qarnain. Say, "I will rehearse to you something of his story."
84. Verily We established his power on earth, and We gave him the ways and the means to all ends.
85. One (such) way he followed,
86. Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness."
87. He said: "Whoever doth wrong, him shall we punish; then shall he be sent back to his Lord; and He will punish him with a punishment unheard-of (before).
88. "But whoever believes, and works righteousness,- he shall have a goodly reward, and easy will be his task as We order it by our Command."
89. Then followed he (another) way,
90. Until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had provided no covering protection against the sun.
91. (He left them) as they were: We completely understood what was before him.
92. Then followed he (another) way,
93. Until, when he reached (a tract) between two mountains, he found, beneath them, a people who scarcely understood a word.
94. They said: "O Zul-qarnain! the Gog and Magog (People) do great mischief on earth: shall we then render thee tribute in order that thou mightest erect a barrier between us and them?
95. He said: "(The power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than tribute): Help me therefore with strength (and labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them:
96. "Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."
97. Thus were they made powerless to scale it or to dig through it.
98. He said: "This is a mercy from my Lord: But when the promise of my Lord comes to pass, He will make it into dust; and the promise of my Lord is true."
99. On that day We shall leave them to surge like waves on one another: the trumpet will be blown, and We shall collect them all together.
1. The above Verses tell us that Zul-Qarnain traveled to the land of the Setting sun in a region that had ‘Murky Water’.
2. Then he traveled in another direction towards the Rising Sun in a land that God provided ‘No Covering Protection’ from the Sun. At this region he found people there, but he simply left them to be and traveled toward a 3rd unknown direction.
However, the clue revealed in the Quran mentions a ‘tract between two mountains’.
The above verses are the only Words spoken by God to Prophet Muhammad (SAW) concerning Zul-Qarnain and the Tribes of Juj and Majuj. In verse 98, these people are prophesized to be set free by God when He alone decides to.
The release of Juj and Majuj is part of the Major signs of the Last Day. I believe that nobody will be able to find them until they are released, but I aim to prove that the EXISTANCE of these tribes are a reality and that if we search sincerely enough we can discover how the incident actually took place or where it MIGHT have taken place…but there are many places theorized by different researchers of the subject.
I welcome any further research and comments regarding this subject…
This is merely the beginning of my research. I have loads of info but need to compile them more clearly to encourage curiosity from you all.
Send your findings this way…
my research links
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